
It's been more than eight years since Sally Faulkner was told her kids wouldn't be coming home over a devastating Skype call.
Yesterday, she spoke to Constance Hall on her podcast To Be Frank to give an update on her family since the moment that's been forever seared into her memory.
Back in May 2015, Sally's two children, then-five-year-old Lahela and two-year-old Noah, were spending time with their father Ali Elamine during a short holiday in Lebanon.
More than 12,000 kilometres away back in Australia, Ali called to tell Sally that "plans had changed".
"Lahela and Noah aren’t coming back to you. They’re staying here with me."
She tells Constance that, as she absorbed his words, she went into "desperation mode".
"I fell to the ground, the laptop fell to the ground and I just thought, 'What am I going to do, this can't be real'? I felt like I'd left my body. It was instantaneous trauma as I knew for real he wasn't messing around. It was like there was no one else in the world.
"I've had to disconnect myself a lot from it to recover and function. I feel really, really numb talking about it. But it has taken a long time to get to this point."
Not able to sleep, Sally began contacting everyone she knew including frantically sending emails to every media agency she could think of.
What happened next made headlines around the world.