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Saturday treat time, Outlouders. A brand new episode of Parenting Out Loud just landed, and we’re dropping it here for you to enjoy too.

In this episode, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester dive into:

💬 Co-parenting: Should parents—be they current partners or exes—need to hype each other up a bit more?
🧠 The Ellen Pompeo quote that made them rethink whether mums can ever give 100% at work
💄 And whether letting kids play with makeup is anti-feminist—or just innocent fun

Plus, in this week’s reccos:
📚 Amelia shares the magazine (yes, an actual paper one) that has her kids totally hooked.
🧠 Jessie’s found a smart way to take the edge off toddler tantrums.

Whatever you're doing this weekend, enjoy the conversation. 

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WHAT TO LISTEN TO NEXT: 

• Parenting Out Loud Ep 1: Grandparents — It's Time For Your Performance Review
• Parenting Out Loud Ep 2: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling
• The Lie Working Mothers Tell
• How To Build A Universe: Into The Jungle We Go
• Not To Be Rude, But WTF Is "Solo Dadding"?

WHAT TO READ: 

• 9 celeb parents on what it's like co-parenting with a famous ex.
• Victoria Beckham shared her makeup 'rules' for Harper. Here's what 7 mums had to say about theirs.
• Makeup at four, pierced ears at five: Parents share their ‘age rules’ for their kids.
• Kim Kardashian West has shared her two makeup rules for daughter North West and... what.
• "There will always be something left to do." What no one tells you about being a working mother.
• Ellen Pompeo is one of TV's best-paid actors. Here's what her life away from the spotlight looks like.
• 'Joshua Jackson spoke about the difficulty of co-parenting. I have feedback.'

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