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Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia exploring what we're (scientifically) calling 'weird twin shit' with resident Mamamia twins, Jessie and Clare Stephens. Catch the full chaos of Jessie And Clare Stephens’ Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? Honestly, why wait?

Jessie Stephens is pregnant with twins — which feels cosmically aggressive when you remember she is a twin (to Clare Stephens — keep up, people). Especially when you consider that Jessie and Clare were raised by a woman who had two sets of identical twins herself. And yes, Anne Stevens would like the universe to calm down.

On this subscriber episode, Mia Freedman gets Jessie and Clare in the studio to unpack eerie twin intuition (just one example: Clare knew Jessie had two heartbeats going on in her womb before Jessie even told her), and the very real logistics of carrying two babies at once.

We talk:

• Why some people say “How exciting!” at the news of twins while others go instantly grey

• The science vs superstition of twins having twins

• Miscarriage, sibling timing, and the emotional whiplash of joy and fear

• Collapsed ribs, reflux, and the indignity of sleeping upright

Plus, there’s debate about birth-room access, grandparent maths, and whether 'weird twin shit' is now officially hereditary.

It’s intimate. It’s chaotic. It’s extremely twin-coded.

Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm.

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What to read: 

• JESSIE STEPHENS: On being pregnant with twins. As a twin. With twin brothers.
• "We lived 30 years as fraternal twins. Then, two weeks ago, we took a test."
• CLARE STEPHENS: 'The story of how I became a (very viral) meme.'
• CLARE STEPHENS: A rude stranger, a note from a neighbour and the age of utter intolerance.

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