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'I interacted with Kim Kardashian for six minutes. It taught me everything I need to know about her.'

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If you wanted to, you could know more about Kim Kardashian than your own circle of friends.

The woman has been on our TV screens for close to 20 years, and in that time, we've seen her at work, fall in love, go through two divorces, become a mother of four, receive accolades, weather numerous scandals, and ferociously both love and hate her famous family members in equal measure.

These moments have all mixed in with hundreds of hours of footage depicting everything from the contents of her fridge and bathroom cabinets, to the information shared in her medical appointments, how she interacts with her childhood friends and the one thing she wishes she could do on the morning of her birthday if she had the opportunity to hide from her kids (lie in bed and eat Cookies and Cream ice-cream, a fact I did not know had entered my brain until it just resurfaced.)

Yes, it's a curated glimpse into her world, with the editing clearly steered by her producer hands, yet it is still a level of intimate access we've never before had with a woman at this level of fame.

The movie stars, the musicians, and the royal family members who make up the tapestry of our most famous women rarely film themselves at the gynaecologist, vomiting into a toilet while wildly hungover, or slapping one of their sisters across the face.

Yet with all the information we have about Kim Kardashian, there are still misconceptions about how she works, how her colleagues view her, and what she wants to stand for. All of which becomes abundantly clear during the filming and press run for her new dramedy series All's Fair.

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Listen to the author of this article interview Kim Kardashian and the cast of All's Fair.

The Ryan Murphy-created series All's Fair became a talking point from the moment it was announced, even setting a record as the most-watched trailer in Hulu history. The premise of the show is about a team of female divorce attorneys who leave a male-dominated firm to open their own 'powerhouse practice', resulting in a story that is both personally and professionally driven.

Anything created by TV powerhouse Murphy, who also wrote and directed the series, will always cause a stir, thanks to his penchant for plot twists, sumptuous costumes, and his knack for falling back on a blend of salacious real-life scandals mixed with potent drama. Yet with All's Fair, the main talking point was who he chose to cast, namely the number one name on the call sheet.

The series is led by Kim Kardashian, who is supported by a roster of critically acclaimed names including Naomi Watts, Niecy Nash-Betts, Teyana Taylor, Sarah Paulson and Glenn Close.

While it might seem surprising for the average TV goer to see Kim's name above a list of names that includes Oscar nominees, the truth is that the show was created by Murphy specifically for her to star in, following her role in his series American Horror Story: Delicate and all the other actresses said they signed on for their roles once they heard Kim had taken the lead.

While the lead up to the premiere of the series was paved with a series of flashy red carpets, the contents of the show itself were kept tightly under wraps, with the series not made available to most interviewers (including myself) before speaking to the cast.

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Early on a Saturday morning, I opened Zoom to see Glenn Close (Dina Standish), Kim Kardashian (Allura Grant) and Niecy Nash-Betts (Emerald Greene) sitting before me, fresh from the show's first glitzy premiere held the night before.

Photos of the cast hugging and whispering on the red carpet had dominated the coverage of the event, which fell perfectly into line with how the show had been marketed since its announcement.

Images of the cast at a Kardashian-hosted sleepover watching Glenn Close's iconic film Fatal Attraction had done the rounds months prior, while a portion of the new season of The Kardashians are dedicated to Kim's bond with her All's Fair co-stars from the set of the series.

While doing early promotion for the series, Niecy said she and her castmates had plenty of time to get to know each other and "dig up their secrets."

"I still have a lot to learn about them all," Glenn Close said, as she gestured to the women sitting beside her when asked about what these secrets were. "I want to learn more about the church that Niecy grew up in.

"Oh, girl, how much time you got!," Niecy Nash interjected with a laugh.

"The one thing I learnt is that Niecy has the juiciest, spiciest life outside of this set," Glenn continued. "She lives life in such a big and wonderful way."

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Then Glenn turned to Kim Kardashian and said: "And you were talking just today about going into your dad's office and looking at stuff from his trials.

"Yes, and I'll tell you what I saw, later." Kim said, politely yet firmly shutting any conversation thread that would lead to a revelation, however small, about her own life that she hadn't prepared to share on screen.

Watch: Our awkward interview with Kim Kardashian. Post continues below.


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There is a line in the All's Fair trailer, uttered by Glen Close's character, where she says, "Men, they are terrified of women in power." So I asked the three powerful women sitting before me if this was something they had found to be true in their own industries, and Kim was the first to respond.

"I don't know if men are terrified of women in power, I think they just don't want to ever give up their power to anyone," she said, after a thoughtful pause.

"So no matter who it is, they're definitely not going to be beaten out by a woman ego-wise.

"But we don't have any of those problems here," she said, referring to the all-woman lead cast.

As one of the most filmed and followed women in the world, I asked Kim if there was anything about her preparation for this role or her drive to become an actress that we hadn't seen play out in public.

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She gave an answer that could be viewed as dull, because most answers about success are when they are linked to the quiet moments of repetition and resilience.

"I worked with an acting coach, Nancy Banks," she said. "There was a time when I was filming American Horror Story, and when we were done filming that at midnight, I was also filming my show (The Kardashians), but I got on a zoom with my acting coach at midnight, and I had to rush back to do that. I always made time for it.

"We'd film long days, and then when we were done, I would always make sure that I was prepped for the next day," she continued.

"The best lessons in acting come from who you're watching and who you surround yourself with.

"So I was really blessed to be able to work with women who are the top in this field. What I do know, no matter what arena I am stepping into, I know about discipline and how to be professional and how to be on time, and how to make sure that I'm prepared and I know my lines, and that was important to me."

I had noticed a trend in the press tour for All's Fair where each of the actresses was constantly questioned about Kim Kardashian's work ethic on set. Leading Niecy to jump in and settle the debate that appeared to be lingering around Kim's time on set.

"You know what, I'm going to tell you, if someone saw you doing that on your show, it wasn't fluff," she said, referring to the episodes of The Kardashians where we see Kim preparing for the role. "I don't want you to think that this is something they just film for behind-the-scenes.

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"I have literally seen this woman with a baby on FaceTime," she continued, pointing to Kim. "With a computer, running a business, a law book, a script, flashcards, all the things. Then we'd get off late at night, and she'd say, 'Now I'm going to my acting class while I'm in the car on the way home'."

"I would do that!" Kim said. "It was an hour ride home every night, so every night I would have my class on the way home in the car, and no matter what time she would be there for me. We would always do the next day's work; that's what matters."

Our interview ends, and even during that short amount of time, I am struck by three things about Kim Kardashian.

She easily becomes the centre of the conversation, even when the questions are not solely focused on her, and she's adept at steering the conversation where she wants it to go.

She might have been publicly racked over the coals once for saying 'no one wants to work anymore', but it's clear that work is still very much her drug of choice.

And she inspires something in the people around her to defend her, champion her, and gravitate towards her.

All's Fair is streaming now on Disney+.

Laura Brodnik is Mamamia's Head of Entertainment and host of The Spill podcast. You can follow her on Instagram here for more entertainment news and recommendations.

Feature image: Getty.

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